sensible border policy
Created on: May 29th, 2010
sensible border policy
not sure but I think increasing globalism and technology renders traditional nation states and geographic boundaries obsolete, and since they mean so little, they'll be more and more bloodshed over them.

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May 29th, 2010
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LOL.
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Wuh zappaning!!!
May 29th, 2010
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I don't agree with the underlying message at all... but +5 for freaking hilarious.
May 29th, 2010
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the description's a bad joke, I don't even know what the underlying message [i]is[/i]
June 1st, 2010
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I don't agree with EvilJay at all... and I STILL think it's hilarious! Open borders FTL!
May 29th, 2010
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YAY, TARGET PRACTICE
May 29th, 2010
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Lawyer's job can be off shored. Its only a matter of time till they figure out how to do the same to doctors.
May 29th, 2010
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But if we drill for off-shore lawyers, they could end up spilling out all over the coast. They're slick like that.
May 29th, 2010
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derka jerbs
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Been awhile since i even thought about 1'ing a site
May 29th, 2010
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meh
May 29th, 2010
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5ed for Cheech.
May 31st, 2010
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I once read that, in Canada, if you don't factor in immigration to population numbers, our population would actually be in decline. You'd think that with all the cold we'd be making more babies. Nice sync btw
May 31st, 2010
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I agree with the description in theory, but it doesn't factor in the expensive social services the "traditional nation states" provide out of the pocketbooks of the citizenry.

People (labor) should have the right to freely move just as we allow the nominally free flow of goods in the West. But labor needs to be reconciled with a more appropriate level of social services.
June 2nd, 2010
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I almost hate to say this, but that is the most sensible thing I have heard anyone say in a long time.
June 2nd, 2010
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My desc. was tongue in cheek satire, but serious points should (sometimes) be met with serious responses. So I posted a few below. I yap about those pocketbooks a bit, but I never get around to addressing distinctions between domestic politics and the more anarchic international system which actively and violently provides 1st World hegemony over 3rd World markets. Maybe to be cont. on some other joke site's comment page...
June 1st, 2010
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keep using tobacco and youre bound to develop a serious trend.
June 2nd, 2010
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That's like, so deep man. Except for the fact that the welfare state renders open border policies untenable because it puts a too great burden on the established residents to pay for the welfare of the poor immigrants.
June 2nd, 2010
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I'm sorry, but by welfare, do you mean corporate welfare (tax subsidies/shelters/incentives) or social welfare (food, housing, and education)? Conservative estimates put the social expenditure at no more than 3-5% that of the corporate, and this is justified through trickle down economics (I think it's called trickle-down because the economy has a UTI, it also burns a little). Way I see it, the established residents are not poorer because of immigrants (and a strong case has been made that, as a nation, we benefit from the exploited illegal labor market and the taxes they do in fact pay, sales and even income tax, etc.), but immigrants have become a ready scapegoat for the dwindling middle class nonetheless. There's a lot of anger out there, and well there should be. I tend to feel it's a bit misdirected however...
June 2nd, 2010
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Your Chomskyisms amuse me. I mean the Medicaid, Medicare and CHIP that take up 20% of the federal budget. And Social Security which is already insolvent without the addition of numerous low income workers. That's in addition to local welfare programs which would be a further drain on the national treasure.

Don't think you have to make this decision all on your lonesome, economists far more intelligent and educated than your or I have explained why open border policies would be disastrous thanks to the welfare state. If you want to remove all benefits, then we can talk.
http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/feature/2010/05/04/immigration_open
_borders_welfare_state
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