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Site Title: If someone threatened to shut down YTMND, what would you do?
Site Domain: knowledgedefeatsignorance.ytmnd.com
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Created on: 2007-01-17 17:11:33
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Description: This is what I would do. Sega of America's forums aren't the enemy, just ignorant of the situation. Well, all except for JoshCube. He's just a douche.
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2007-01-17 17:16:42
 
^the preceding empty space has been approved by the Organization of the Promotion of the Institutionalization of the Supreme Idealogical Ideal on Earth. HAIL LORD IL PALAZZOOOOOOOoo~ *coughs up blood and dies*
2007-01-17 17:24:38
 
Mm. The sane minority of ytmnd.
2007-01-17 17:29:45
 
Music got epic on the second last paragraph. Instant win.
2007-01-17 17:32:14
 
thanks for the support guys. the music is really soft at the beginning of the song, unfortunately.
2007-01-17 17:33:53
 
Oh I thought SEGA just wanted to have control of that one YTMND
2007-01-17 17:37:43
 
Nope Twinsen, it's there in the PDF. They want the Sonic sites removed, THEN they want ytmnd.com given to them.
2007-01-17 17:38:52
 
^^ Actually, Twinsen is right. Sega doesn't want control of YTMND, they want control of _a single_ YTMND, the Sonic Rape Advice one. This is of course a huge difference from the interpretations of most people. Nevertheless, I somehow doubt that YTMNDers would be willing to capitulate even if all they wanted was one site.
2007-01-17 17:40:30
 
The proof of this is in the term "Website." Note the capital letter there. The lawyer has marked the Sonic Rape Advice YTMND with the label "Website." Therefore, EVERY SINGLE USE of the word "Website" after that point refers to the Sonic Rape Advice YTMND. You will notice that they wish to take control of the Website, not the website.
2007-01-17 17:40:37
 
lol upvote... i concur... there are SANE people on ytmnd????
2007-01-17 17:41:56
 
I'm not so sure there. Their last demand is that they want control of the "Website". This could mean just the one that they listed in the document, http://sonicgivesadivceonrape.ytmnsfw.com, but then what about all the other websites? I'm pretty sure they want to shut down YTMND for good.
2007-01-17 17:42:45
 
my last comment was to syckls, by the way
2007-01-17 17:48:27
 
Well, I am still far from accepting the idea of bowing to the whim of a big company and censoring ourselves. All I'm saying is that they don't want YTMND. What would they even do with it?
2007-01-17 17:49:42
 
I didn't see your second post there, syckls. Aside from repeating you a bit, the point I made is still valid; however, it doesn't really matter that much as Max isn't probably willing to give an inch or a mile. Unless Sega Blinks, this case is going to court. The reason I made this ytmnd is becuase I'm tired of all the petty "ZOMG FORUM RAID 9:00 EST!!one" bullsh*t that seems to go on when we are threatened. There are better ways of dealing with our business than that. Besides, if YTMND does
2007-01-17 17:50:58
 
go to court, our "raiding" of the forums is probably going to come up somehow someway, and I'd rather not be party to it.
2007-01-17 17:53:41
 
I gotta admit, Syckls, I'm wondering if you are abstaining from voting or if it's just not going through, because I would be interested in some feedback on my site that doesn't consist of gimmick downvoting or gimmick upvoting, or one word comments like "sucks" or "sh*t"
2007-01-17 17:58:04
 
Thank you for trying to find a peaceful resolution.
2007-01-17 18:00:01
 
I for one would Teabag anyone who threatened.
2007-01-17 18:00:16
 
Ah, AtlDynasty25, this isn't a good ytmnd? Oh, I see... Dinosaur porn is the way to go. How wrong I've been.
2007-01-17 18:04:47
 
The music got epic when i began reading the last paragraph. Awesome!
2007-01-17 18:06:09
 
Thanks again for the support guys. This is my first time on up and coming, and probably my last, since I can't make a funny ytmnd that's worth a damn lol.
2007-01-17 18:17:19
 
Oh shnap. The real thing is; SEGA Europe has too much time on their hands not doing ANYTHING, so a person who works there is a YTMND user, sees the site and thinks "I better tell my boss, lolz" And there you have it :3
2007-01-17 18:26:47
 
the dramatic music kicked in as i was reading the last paragraph- really added a nice effect ;P GJ
2007-01-17 18:28:33
 
Thank you.
2007-01-17 18:29:52
 
I've just really been looking for a reason to incorporate this music into a YTMND. the fact that it works so well with this ytmnd is basically luck.
2007-01-17 18:30:00
 
MrPopadopalis25: Music got epic on the second last paragraph. Instant win. "
2007-01-17 18:31:20
 
Sega didn't threaten to shut down YTMND. They demanded that ytmnd be turned over to them or face legal action. Since the demand is ludicrous and their case is frivolous, to respond to your poorly phrased question I would do nothing, and that would be plenty. If we all, collectively, do nothing, that will be more than enough.
2007-01-17 18:31:23
 
AMEN
2007-01-17 18:33:18
 
to syckls: The guy is a European lawyer, for one, so the legal formatting may be different. For two, it's merely an empty threat sent by their lowest level peon lawyers who may or may not have any certified degrees. Don't read too deeply.
2007-01-17 18:33:30
 
2007-01-17 18:34:23
 
Also, this is not a good ytmnd.
2007-01-17 18:34:31
 
ZOMG 31st
2007-01-17 18:36:49
 
*is having fun in this thread*
2007-01-17 18:38:07
 
What exactly do you think Sega would do with ytmnd after they acquired it, Korf? Give it back to max and say "now behave this time, or else"? No. They would either destroy it, or turn it into something else, where it wouldn't be YTMND anymore. If that isn't equivalent to shutting down ytmnd, I don't know what is.
2007-01-17 18:42:38
 
2007-01-17 18:49:13
 
To be honest I think Sega's lawyers have no damn clue what YTMND is in the first place. Anyway man good job on projecting a non-retarded image of YTMND. Hopefully we'll look better at the end of all this. Not better than Sega, just...better.
2007-01-17 18:57:45
 
Heh, they locked the thread that this YTMND came from. The thread was created by a site mod though... just weird.
2007-01-17 19:07:07
 
"Knowledge over ignorance" Good catchphrase.
2007-01-17 19:16:28
 
geezy rhymes with cheesey
2007-01-17 19:17:12
 
HOW could anyone mistake that one YTMND for all of YTMND!? I knew they wated to rid the whole thing all this time... and i thought that everyone else knew also
2007-01-17 19:22:25
 
I will boycott Sega if they succeed. This is pig-headed.
2007-01-17 19:29:52
 
If they shut down YTMND...there is going to be serious hell to pay in the form of a few hundred angry fanboys.
2007-01-17 19:42:27
 
I really like that song.
2007-01-17 19:55:36
 
YOU SUCK
2007-01-17 20:07:55
 
"What exactly do you think Sega would do with ytmnd after they acquired it, Korf? Give it back to max and say "now behave this time, or else"? No. They would either destroy it, or turn it into something else, where it wouldn't be YTMND anymore. If that isn't equivalent to shutting down ytmnd, I don't know what is." You're the dumbest person alive.
2007-01-17 20:13:48
 
YTMND patriotism is retarded. I'm going to send a message to max saying that I am a martian invader and I will take control of ytmnd unless he deletes all sites referring to extra terrestrials and then you can post a ytmnd of a screenshot of your post on an ET friendly message board asking them to contact the martians and beg to rescind the threat and get a bunch of 5's because that's as likely to threaten the ownership of ytmnd as this silly empty threat from SEGA.
2007-01-17 20:21:43
 
The song is nice. If you read at an average pace, the music gets more tense on the coming paragraphs..Great artistic use of music even if it was intentional or not. =]
2007-01-17 20:31:45
 
dongs
2007-01-17 20:47:11
 
Its about time someone responded in a rational manor instead of shouting unintelligent bs and spamming all over the place.
2007-01-17 21:19:36
 
Well, all except for JoshCube. He's just a douche.
2007-01-17 21:50:10
 
Why is there the preloader?
2007-01-17 23:30:29
 
heck ya!
2007-01-17 23:33:12
 
Thou wilt not leave me in the loathsom grave His prey, nor suffer my unspotted Soule For ever with corruption there to dwell;
2007-01-17 23:59:08
 
hack their forums to replace all post buttons with flying pink wangs like in second life? :P
2007-01-18 00:23:03
 
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2007-01-18 01:15:41
 
I WOULD DO A BARREL ROLL
2007-01-18 01:36:39
 
1'd for self promotion
2007-01-18 07:30:42
 
good job on that letter
2007-01-18 07:31:58
 
Screenshot-tmnd
2007-01-18 08:44:10
 
I was expecting something more profound, but it was a good speech. 4 for making me want to read it
2007-01-18 08:44:39
 
JoshCube is just simply a plain anime freak.
2007-01-18 08:45:39
 
hmm, my vote doesn't seem to be working... oh well, I'll try again later
2007-01-18 09:02:06
 
worked
2007-01-18 09:04:43
 
3'dom! 3'dom! THREEEEEEEEEEEEEE'DOM!
2007-01-18 09:19:08
 
I heard Microsoft recently purchased Sega, if true, this would explain a lot about this lawyers letter,tho still confusing that it comes from Sega Europe,well, actually ,England, and we all now know what a bunch of racists basterd they are eh?
2007-01-18 09:47:09
 
2007-01-18 09:51:54
 
Like I'm going to read that.
2007-01-18 11:19:07
 
Am I the only one here who actually realizes that if something is used in a parody (in a non-slanderous way), then there is nothing that SEGA can do. I hope no one is worried about this as SEGA honestly is in the wrong here, and if I were Max, I would personally sue them for harassment.
2007-01-18 11:38:50
 
masturbatory.
2007-01-18 12:39:07
 
4 for nice music +1 for a point
2007-01-18 12:39:51
 
Just host ytmnd.com in like Ahghanastan and then be like LOL COME SHUT ME DOWN NOW
2007-01-18 13:21:11
 
NEXT STOP SEGA EUROPE FORUMS
2007-01-18 13:28:47
 
LET THE YTMND SPAM CRUSADE BEGIN! honestly I wounld'nt miss YTMND, its starting to get old any way
2007-01-18 13:44:58
 
i didnt even bother waiting for this one to load
2007-01-18 13:54:19
 
I am so f*cking lazy and this is so f*cking boring. Maybe you should just read it for us. ;)
2007-01-18 14:34:49
 
when SEGA takes over, will my current login still work?
2007-01-18 14:36:13
 
Excellent message and Davey Jones? How can you not five this?
2007-01-18 15:50:12
 
"They would either destroy it, or turn it into something else, where it wouldn't be YTMND anymore." If that happens I would believe that some dude would make PTKFGS. Then if that succomes to Sega YESYES would be made. Then if we don't survive that we'd fragment into 4th universe knockoffs of YTMND. I don't think anyone could kill this site without someone trying to recreate it at least once.
2007-01-18 16:51:14
 
5 for first post intelligible post ever made on the YTMND forums.
2007-01-18 16:52:37
 
Never mind, it wasn't made on the YTMND forums. Go figure.
2007-01-18 17:10:53
 
I, for one, am officially quitting my old support of the radical actions of certain YTMNDers. Geezy, you've really made a point here. While I do think that Sega MAY have intended to only target one of our websites in particular, the lawyer had the most awful wording that I've ever seen. If max goes to court over this, he can simply use the lack of clarity as a weapon against Sega. I love Sega games, I do, but I suppose the European board just couldn't keep its grubby hands away from an easy publicity stunt.
2007-01-18 20:04:52
 
In response to some of my downvoters; Korf, if I'm the dumbest person alive for supporting YTMND thusly, then I'm the dumbest person alive. These threats are taking a toll on YTMND, whether we like to admit it or not; I'd just rather stop the bleeding here rather than have raiders put YTMND into an early grave.
2007-01-18 20:08:29
 
Predator90: As far as self-promotion, this YTMND is what it is. I made it for the sole purpose of bettering YTMND, not for personal recognition. I wasn't the only one from YTMND participating in that discussion on the forums; look at the thread and see for yourself. If you think creating ytmnds are easy, you should try for yourself. Hell, you can see my track record. It's not pretty.
2007-01-18 20:09:47
 
For the rest of you, once again, I appreciate the support and the constructive criticism. This is the reason why I fight so hard for YTMND when I see it's name slandered.
2007-01-19 02:24:12
 
5 because Josh Cube is a hopeless tool.
2007-01-20 01:34:53
 
"What exactly do you think Sega would do with ytmnd after they acquired it, Korf? Give it back to max and say "now behave this time, or else"? No. They would either destroy it, or turn it into something else, where it wouldn't be YTMND anymore. If that isn't equivalent to shutting down ytmnd, I don't know what is."
2007-01-20 01:37:40
 
That is the dumbest thing anyone has ever said. There is absolutely no legal precedent of any kind of a company violating copyrights and being penalized by having to hand over control of the company to the plaintiff. It's a ridiculous statement. That you would make it makes you quite dumb. A company can be penalized financially or ordered to shut down, but never absorbed. That's ludicrous. The demands are mere fearmongering and nothing more.
2007-01-20 01:40:04
 
There is an exactly 0% chance that max would be forced to hand over his site to SEGA, a slightly higher chance that Sega would ever win any legal case against YTMND, and a substantially higher chance that SEGA would actually take YTMND to court. That substantially larger probability? Probably about .01%. "This is the reason why I fight so hard for YTMND when I see it's name slandered." It's a good thing you don't fight for grammar. Its name.
2007-01-20 19:44:35
 
I'm rather glad that Korf has such an excellent grasp on law and upon all the copyright cases, both national and international. Personally, I'm not that well versed in the subject. One thing I do understand, however, is money. Max isn't exactly rolling in it. Every legal battle he has to endure is one more that he doesn't have the money to finance. It's not a matter of if Sega would win a court case, or what they would win if they did; it's the matter of what toll it would take upon YTMND.
2007-01-20 19:55:05
 
YTMND isn't invincible; we've seen that recently with the additions of ads to help pay for the costs of maintaining it. All we need is a few long and drawn out court cases to either put YTMND on hiatus for a while, or to end it completely. Of course, these are all worst case scenarios; maybe Max has an endless cash flow of Jew-gold or something, and maybe all these companies that like to threaten to sue us are just screwing around. But I seriously doubt both of those.
2007-01-20 20:04:56
 
I'll simply end with this, Korf, and get back to your responses. Surely many people have said stupider things than I on this site, and there's enough gimmick voting around for you to know I'm right about that. For someone who speaks so eloquently, I'm surprised that you would have to point out a grammar error to make yourself seem better than me. However, instead of sinking to your level, I'll simply leave you with your victory, as Pyrrhic as it may be.