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| Site Title: | Oil Puppet! | ||||||||||
| Site Domain: | oilpuppet.ytmnd.com | ||||||||||
| Created by: | ROY4L | ||||||||||
| Created on: | 2006-08-04 20:42:50 | ||||||||||
| Image Origin: | by ROY4L | ||||||||||
| Sound Origin: | by ROY4L | ||||||||||
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1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5
| Yay! Another ROY4L original. |
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| ★☆☆☆☆'d |
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| ★★★★★'d |
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| You're crossing into territory that you have no place in |
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| He can go wherever the hell he wants. Anyone can. | ||||||
| I'd never thought I'd 1 one of yours |
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| almost didnt notice the flag | ||||||
| Lolz, no |
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| there ya go *high 5'd* |
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| Come to think of it. Your site arn't funny. Artistic yes but other then that they've got nothing going for them except hard work. |
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| yeah n gee isn't hard work for f*ckin homos? |
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| Not funny, but very very well done. | ||||||
| I was needing a good ROY4L. Thanks for this. | ||||||
| This will have sexymofo's five by tomorrow |
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| Well done. I disagree, but well done! | ||||||
| very politcal, i give u props for doing it in such a creative way unlike most people. | ||||||
| Creepy as hell, both with and without context. | ||||||
| TEH BUSH JOKS R FUNNEY |
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| Bush = PWN3D! | ||||||
| Yet another 5'd Roy4l with cheese. | ||||||
| ★★★★★'d | ||||||
| No. Stupid. |
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| f*ck bush |
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| speaking of the washington post... | ||||||
| Some real nice attention to detail, like the the small barely noticeable strings for the joints. I also like the catchy musical theme with this one as well. | ||||||
| Cindy Sheehan'd |
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| You win again! | ||||||
| -1 for not funny. -1 for not entertaining. -1 for unoriginal thought. -1 for politics. |
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| I disagree, but since you created everything and it's so well-done, you get four stars. | ||||||
| yay | ||||||
| Neato. Is there anywhere I can download these songs of yours, ROY4L? I really like this one. | ||||||
| I find this dissapointing too, I 5'd all your other YTMNDs. |
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| ROYAL'D FTW | ||||||
| What is the symbol on the ring of the hand? Also, what's the arabic text in the back? I like this political statement, and would like to subscribe to your newsletter. | ||||||
| Oh, and I love all the teenage conservatives in here. You guys just get done reading ATLAS SHRUGGED? | ||||||
| Unfortunately, the politics of this is really going to lower the rating of it... | ||||||
| 1'd for typical liberal crap. |
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| The music on this is really good. | ||||||
| WerbelKint, what about all the teenage liberals? "BUSH=PWN3D"?? Give me a break. |
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| WerbalKint, show some respect. It's not exactly out-of-fashion to be an anti-Bush conspiracy theorist nutcase. You can disagree with this YTMND without being stupid. | ||||||
| Dude your sh*t is awesome
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| Whatever, just come back when your dad stops telling you how to vote. | ||||||
| whats wrong with the typical liberal crap im tired of the conseravtive crap the downvoters dont know sh*t |
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| My ears hurt a lot from the music, but it is something actually origional so I won't vote. | ||||||
| Political but still mindraped. Here is your 5. | ||||||
| My dad is an ex-hippie liberal, and he'd be an activist if he wasn't busy being a doctor and saving peoples' lives. Think before you spew sh*t out of your mouth (or keyboard). |
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| george bush owns you |
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| Hey, WerbalKint, believe what you want. I'm a Libertarian because I think for myself. If most folks had half a brain and saw the world in more colors than red and blue, I'm certain there wouldn't be so many folks like you who can't understand when others don't share your exact views for legitimate reasons. | ||||||
| And it's not conspiracy to think that Bush actively colludes with oil companies. Himself, Cheney and several other members of the administration used to hold positions in the industry, or one related to it. Cheney's still holds stock options at Halliburton, meaning he makes money every time the government gives them a contract. It's not a matter of conspiracy theories or "whiny liberalism." It's called being an informed, intelligent person, which, if you still support Bush, you aren't. | ||||||
| 1'ed for retarded Bush-bashing... I thought you had more imagination than thay, ROY4L! |
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| you know what's funny about this? nothing. LOL, I'M AN IDIOT, I HATE BUSH BECAUSE MICHAEL MOORE TOLD ME HE WENT TO WAR FOR OIL, LOLOL!!! |
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| You are. Become an hero now! If you need instructions on how to become an hero, check out your local army recruiter. | ||||||
| Was this inspired by http://dilbertblog.typepad.com/the_dilbert_blog/2006/07/secret_society.html? Please respond. | ||||||
| crazy!!! | ||||||
| We're artists now. |
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| wanna know something? halliburton, the famous oil company, has LOST money over the time that we've been over there. they're trying to help, and guess what? that costs money. you talk about conservatives making uninformed comments, and being blind followers of crap, but when was the last time YOU went out and read/saw a REAL news article? don't look to the NYT for your news, they hate bush as much as you, so they'll only show the bad stuff. did you know the dem's approval rating is worse than bush's, and he |
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| Arabic Derricks. | ||||||
| has like 38%. people just assume, since news outlets only show the anti-bush side of it, that bush is worst off. nopers, dems have lower approval ratings than repubs. you think that a 38% approval means 62% disapproval rating. nope. there's the "i don't know" factor, the "i don't care" factor, and others. i work at a survey center, and i know, from the questions, that news organizations HAVE ACCESS to the information, they just don't give it. so please, shut up. |
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| And I work in the office of king of the world.
Also, Serious Business etc. | ||||||
| lol, amwood. sponsoring something this unfunny and crappy is just laaaaaaaaame. |
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| Werbalkint...don't spew nonsense about your supposed superiority here and throw around redundant facts about the bush administration. You aren't teaching anybody. And if you are actually more mature than the "teenage conservatives" here, you'd understand that. Now, stopping upvoting clips like this that belong in Green Day music videos, because you're only embarrassing yourself. |
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| -3 for politics. | ||||||
| Music is great. I'd buy that for a dollar. | ||||||
| "jakeman: wanna know something? halliburton, the famous oil company, has LOST money over the time that we've been over there." HAHAHAHAHA LOST MONEY?! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halliburton#Revenues | ||||||
| AHAHAHAHAHA...not funny at all. |
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| Funniest ROY4L comments page ever, by the way. Beats the hundreds of "man what were you smoking" comments. |
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| not to sound like a broken record, but i agree with greenscreen. Music is really nice on this one. Maybe it's just because i'm more attunted to the theme that i hear (western/mideastern), but i really like what you've done here. | ||||||
| As for ROY4L, I love your sites, but wish you were above this cliched political demonstration. And way to reference wikipedia, amwood. Truly born to investigate. |
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| "You're crossing into territory that you have no place in" Just out of curiosity, who SHOULD be crossing into that territory, if not the citizenry. | ||||||
| uuhh scary... | ||||||
| I don't know sh*t about politics. | ||||||
| How did I know this was a ROY4L?
The Free Masons aren't evil power grabbers ffs. :| | ||||||
| I love your works. They remind me of The Brothers Quay. Was your NEDM drummer ment to be anaglyphic? | ||||||
| Excellent work as always. Don't know exactly how much I agree with the sentiments, but... that puppet is just hilarious. | ||||||
| awesome | ||||||
| Darnn democraps | ||||||
| Your best site yet. | ||||||
| This has nothing to do with Republicans/Democrats. Republicans Bush and Cheney happen to be bitches to the oil companies, as were Democrats like LBJ. It's not about picking a side, it has more to do with American history. |
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| wow, so many people go nuts just cause one insignificant artist puts bush's face in a ytmnd and has the word oil. 5'd not becuase i agree with you, but for a good job. | ||||||
| normally i love your stuff but come on, not a george bush thing man... -1 for it | ||||||
| You sure know how to waste your time, go to a Cindy Sheehan book signing! |
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| rad, rad, rad audio and cheney's energy bill | ||||||
| I heard someone else say Bush got elected because he wanted oil! Oh yeah. It was my little third grade brother taking a sh*t on his hand while spewing out all of his political knowledge! | ||||||
| Love the music. The image is clever as well. | ||||||
| ★☆☆☆☆ |
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| ROY4L. | ||||||
| Okay, this is just stupid. Oil Puppet? LAWL GEORGE BUSH IS ONLY FIGHTING THE WAR FOR OIL! LAWL! f*cking kill yourself. This isn't art. This is garbage brought on by complete and utter ignorance of all politics. |
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| Sheeet that's good. | ||||||
| Blood for oil @ $75 a barrel?
Nice try.
Lose. |
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| The Illuminati did it! |
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| wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait... So Bush is a puppet of the Zionist Jews in their bid to control world oil supplies? | ||||||
| a lot of you are putting words in the author's mouth. | ||||||
| No we aren't, Concerto. He said these words when he made Bush a puppet to a bunch of oil rigs. And don't call him an artist. He's just a dumbass. |
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| I always wondered how guys like Mussolini and Hitler got elected, but not so much so after seeing these comments. | ||||||
| Bush sucks. But that doesn't make this any less bad. |
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| Interesting. | ||||||
| Dras, are you comparing Bush to Hitler? |
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| No, but I am saying that fascist dictators get elected by the mis-informed masses. | ||||||
| This is most certainly your worst to date. See what happens when you let personal bias determine your actions? |
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| You use the same instrumentals over and over and the message your trying to convey has already been reiterated thousands of times. You are losing your originality and need to think of something more unique. | ||||||
| thats skilled yo | ||||||
| So many ignorent peple here, damn.
You can't draw the line between the Bush administration and big oil.
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| Politics @ ymtnd = NO
Random bullsh*t about a burning cat and a starship federation captin @ ytmnd = YES |
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| i heard the music and immedietly knew it was you. 5 as always | ||||||
| The image is worth a 3, what's really great about this is how ballsy it is. | ||||||
| someday these people will understand btw. try to keep your work unbiased so your reviews will hit top 15 higher | ||||||
| I wasn't going to vote but 5 to counter the downvoters, I love your Gilliam-esque work (big Python fan here) and the distinct style you have compared to other ytmnds. | ||||||
| I want whatever you're tripping on when you're making YTMNDs. | ||||||
| Also, you guys are morons. That's a pentagram, not a star of David. This has nothing to do with the jews, hitler, or any of that sh*t. | ||||||
| A it is a good! Rhunt the jews! | ||||||
| I'm linking to this from everywhere. Also, 6th site I've favorited. I need to start being more selective. | ||||||
| i usually downvote anti-bush sites, not because i like bush or anything, but because they are mostly just something from GIS with no effort put into it whatsoever. this is not, however. | ||||||
| "Republicans Bush and
Cheney happen to be bitches to the oil companies" right. well, better than kerry being a bitch to the ketchup companies! no, but for real. do you think that we're just caring about oil? i can honestly say, if bringing peace to that reigon makes oil go up to 100$ a gallon, it'd still be worth it. no more genocidal dictators + democratically elected officials = better than what's over there now. |
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| OK PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIKE THIS SITE. stop coming to comment. this got on the top 15, let's try to keep it off, as it just makes people angry stupid hateful and mean. makes almost EVERYONE that way. so let this sliiiiiide off the top 15. |
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| fail | ||||||
| http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060727/ap_on_bi_ge/earns_exxon_mobil;_ylt=AgQaUEHAVYjKv9ZlJPX_Ugys | ||||||
| You know. This music reminds me VERY much of A perfect circle. This is by far one of my favorite ytmnd's. great job. | ||||||
| lol, I never thought there'd be so many conservatives on YTMND. General assumptions FTW. This owns. | ||||||
| 5'd for pissing off Bush lovers. | ||||||
| I'm so goddamn tired of politics. Why bring em to YTMND? This place is supposed to be fun...leave that crap out :| | ||||||
| i would give you 100 stars if i could | ||||||
| oh and all you idiots debating politics are wasting your time. 90% of people don't know anything about politics and merely back their parents opinions without question. | ||||||
| This is hot. And for the 1 stars, if you are expecting everyone to always agree with you, you've got a lot to learn about the world after high school. | ||||||
| Communist f*ck
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| hmmm... I wonder who made this? Yep, I guessed right. -1 for political message | ||||||
| dude, thats crazy. seriously | ||||||
| ... not saying i agree or disagree with the political message btw | ||||||
| You're getting tiresome ROY4L... |
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| You're getting slammed for your political views, and it's rave of you to take a stand.
f*ck what they say, good f*ckin' message. Creepy as sh*t, too. | ||||||
| Since when did votes on YTMND have anything to do with opinion of the subject matter? It's about the quality of the work, and this is quality. | ||||||
| I'm not into politics, but it's a good ytmnd. 4 | ||||||
| Trippin'est. | ||||||
| wow, i dont know what to say | ||||||
| Well done, but political jokes are rarely funny. | ||||||
| not even slightly funny |
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| Stale style, political commentary isn't amusing, the oil puppet thing has been done many times before. | ||||||
| Niiiice 5'd | ||||||
| I love how people jump to communist.
I really really love it. | ||||||
| Truth | ||||||
| Political statement. | ||||||
| sound 5, animation 5, political message 1 | ||||||
| 5'd just to fight newb downvoters...
Also... bush can bite the fattest part of my ass... | ||||||
| maybe alittle bit too political for me. whats the hand/ring in the middle represent. | ||||||
| holy sh*t awesome | ||||||
| doesn't 5 5 and 1 average out to three and two thirds? so instead of a one vote it should be a 4, or maybe a three. | ||||||
| Good job for pointing out the obvious fact that we went to war for the sole purpose of controlling Iraq's oil reserves. That's why we're paying $3 a gallon. |
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| politics + ytmnd usually doesn't = teh win. unless its something like a series of tubes. then it's win. | ||||||
| Cool. Political propaganda, but cool. :) | ||||||
| i suppose if there is anything this site has proven, it's that people f*cking HATE politics. | ||||||
| would you people go to hell all ready!!! | ||||||
| bush can rot in hell... oh and 5 | ||||||
| Guess the ytmnd fame is bringing the crazies out of the woodwork. |
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| Not going to rate too good simply because Bush lovers will downvote. | ||||||
| HAS ROY4L SAID ANYTHING ABOUT IRAQ?
NO
THAT'S YOU, HE'S JUST SAYING THAT THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION AND BIG OIL ARE CLOSE. | ||||||
| I loved your sites ROY4L until this one. No im not gonna downvote all yours but keep out of the political crap. |
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| O_o -_- o_O -_- O_O O_o o_O O_o o_O O_O | ||||||
| And a puppet to the neocons. It's more complicated than this, but twill suffice for a political comic. All these people downvoting make me laugh, I love it when idiots think they know things and get all happy. | ||||||
| Far too politically-minded for YTMND. | ||||||
| Lawl, watching all the Bush folk get sand in their vaginers is funny. Also cocks | ||||||
| Greatest comment ever: Arin: Blood for oil @ $75 a barrel? Nice try. Lose. | ||||||
| and with that, the conservative half of YTMND'ers grants ROY4L his lowest rated site ever. My friend, as long as you speak your heart and mind, and as long as you remain true to YOURSELF, you will continue to earn my 5's and my respect. |
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| Oh lawd. | ||||||
| lol, if you dont like him, take him out yourself. Nobody is going to do it for you.
good animation and music though. | ||||||
| ★★☆☆☆'d....
Politics != Funny | ||||||
| My rating has nothing to do with my opinion on its theme. | ||||||
| Hey change that 5 pointed star to a star of david and you've got yourself a winnar :| | ||||||
| artful? absolutely. funny? not a bit. | ||||||
| No comment. |
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| 1'd for misuse of pentagram. and scaring me. otherwise its funny and well made. nice. |
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| I really liked your work up until this one. Dont bash bush, hes doing what he can. Democrat |
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| 'Hey change that 5 pointed star to a star of david and you've got yourself a winnar :|' - tis a pentagram. |
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| Dear f*gs, stop looking at the politcal side of this ytmnd, and try to see the artistc merit. | ||||||
| Associating the pentagram and that flag is the biggest oxymoron. But it's undeniable that Bush is out to secure his investment in the middle east. Nothing more. | ||||||
| I think too many people are getting their feelings mixed up in this. Relax, it's a YTMND. | ||||||
| I give you 5 for effort and art but this wasent the best you have done | ||||||
| amazing! (i actually understand it this time!) | ||||||
| politics + ytmnd = no good.
just ask sonic... | ||||||
| 5'd for awesome song. | ||||||
| O_-OOOOPqieowq3 | ||||||
| Excellent, liked the music | ||||||
| I'm sure that roy4l is going to be able to make pages and pages of "lovely PM" ytmnds. | ||||||
| Too obvious but creepy enough for a 3 at least | ||||||
| Good work. Creative... | ||||||
| Didn't you hear the news YTMND'rs are artists | ||||||
| The music is great, just missing a sitar after listening to it again | ||||||
| Y'know, even if you don't like all the political bullsh*t, you gotta admit that the animation from a technical standpoint is cool, I'd like to see the haters try to pull off this sh*t in PS | ||||||
| Yea ... you know sh*t about the world ... |
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| the balogna is in the nest, the pastrami is recyclable. | ||||||
| sorry, no. |
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| How dare you express your opinion! You see, you don't understand politics and everyone else here does... 5'd for music, image, and not giving a sh*t what anyone thinks. | ||||||
| This is the epitome of YTMND as art, especially political art. You, my fellow YTMND user, are what makes this site an art form. | ||||||
| It kinda figures Artists are always going after politics. 1'd | ||||||
| bush is terrible | ||||||
| I agree.... but politics have no place here! |
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| THAT'S AMAZING! I was just about to make the same thing. Wouldn't have been this good though, well done! | ||||||
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| I love the music | ||||||
| You mean Jewish puppet. Change the ring from a pentagram to a Star of David and you'll get a 5. | ||||||
| qfmft!!!!!!! | ||||||
| ytmnd is about humor. thats what i think most of the low votes are coming from, including mine. even if i agree with you. = | ||||||
| This is your best work yet! Bravo! | ||||||
| waah! the presidents a republican! |
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| Nice | ||||||
| I love it. Pretty much all politcians are corrupt. The left and right maintain power by pitting us against each other. This thread is proof of that. There is no us against them. They are slowly taking away our freedoms while keeping us distracted and divided with irrelevent 'hot button' issues that never really seem to get resolved. Stay aware and stay informed. All of us americans need to stand united now more than ever. |
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| Royal yet again with a blow to the regime! BTW, keep making original music. | ||||||
| w00t | ||||||
| Bush is a sh*tty president, but all these f*gs who base their political opinion on fabricated "facts" established by morons like Michael Moore need to go for a stroll into oncoming traffic. I'm all for having your own opinion, nomatter what side of any issue you happen to be on as long as you do your own research. | ||||||
| made me smile, and well made image | ||||||
| With that said...good animation, good music, terrible theme and message. In the future please find a more creative and less main stream retard way to make fun of bush. Note: "Bush is a crappy public speaker." is also mainstream and just as gay. | ||||||
| Pretty well made, and relatively witty. | ||||||
| Saw it, and knew right away it was ROY4L's | ||||||
| LOLx10 @ a political debate on ytmnd | ||||||
| But what does it all mean!!!??? | ||||||
| Even if it weren't liberal garbage, the sound is incredibly grating. |
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| liberals phail at liphe |
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| and conservatives. POLITICS IS SERIOUS BUSINESS!!1!one! | ||||||
| Oh, sh*t, another f*cking Roy4l site, time to f*cking downvote.
Oh, bonus, it's political. I shall sh*t well tonight. |
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| I bet that most of you who use the term liberal don't even know what it means. | ||||||
| or conservative, for that matter | ||||||
| ytmnd isn't the place for politics sir.
gay'd |
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| come on Royal, your better than this, please THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX, bush hating is so mainstream and cool now a day, boooorinnnngggg |
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| Yeah, as soon as the image loaded, I thought, "Oh look, it's ROY4L." Not bad, but eh. I guess we're artists, though. | ||||||
| like it or not, YTMND has become a staple of internet culture, and especially so for those between 18-26. YTMND sites have become an ideal form of self-expression for people around the world. As voters, you're open to give your take on their work...but really, who are you to claim that their pieces don't "belong"? YTMND has also become a huge representative for freedom of speech and anti-censorship. The words you spout off here go against everything that so many YTMND'ers have grown to proudly stand for. | ||||||
| ^ this in response to the saddening claims that "politics don't belong on YTMND" | ||||||
| You have a juvenile understanding of politics. |
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| Great job on the music and the image. About politics: I agree with you that to me Bush is a puppet. I don't know if you made this one to protest against him or just to mock of him but Americans don't seem to like (or maybe understand) satiric charicatures of their politicians. | ||||||
| If I could give you 10 stars, I surely would. | ||||||
| 2 for polotics/didn't really get into it like many of your other ones. | ||||||
| Stop downvoting on politics.
In college being anti-bush gets you a higher grade.
Nice actually original sound/animation. | ||||||
| roy4l, man you shouldn't stoop this low! | ||||||
| Ths one's going to strike a nerve... | ||||||
| I don't think any single one of you that have voted on this site based on your opinion of the US government (good or bad) have any place voting on any site on YTMND. I can't imagine how much effort ROY4L spends on making YTMNDs. This is his view. This is the medium he chose to display it in. If you disagree with him, make a YTMND with your own opinion. Put as much effort and skill as ROY4L does into it. See where it goes. Or subscribe to a forum and have your childish arguments there. None of you are part |
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| of the US government, or a news station; Nor are any of you sitting in the middle-east being bombed. I suggest you all save your political arguments for people whose opinions you might change. The only thing you're going to initiate is a wikipedia-information-slinging-fight.
ROY4L, another job well done. I really like this music too. |
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| Even better than Baphomet. Far, FAR better. | ||||||
| Oh my, how fashionable to Bush bash. | ||||||
| This is good bait for the political f*gs who always have to assert their opinion everywhere they go. They will downvote anything that they disagree with, no matter how good what they're disagreeing with. This just BLEEDS ignorance, no matter which side of this debate you are on. Open Minded - 0, Bias - 1.9 X 10^500 | ||||||
| 3'd for the art and effort.
No 5 because anti-bushism is cheap and uncreative | ||||||
| Hating Bush is so 2003. |
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| I didn't read all the downvoter comments, but I think the only one that had any merit was "ytmnd is no place for politics." As for the rest of you, if you disagree with ROY4L's opinion, f*ck off. He's perfectly entitled to it and to expressing it artistically. I certainly disagree with him, but you don't see me putting down his honest effort, do you? | ||||||
| *BTW, when I said that the "ytmnd is no place for politics" comment had merit, I forgot to mention that I disagreed with it. The internet and YTMND is a place for free speech, and no one deserves to have their views put down without logical, civilized debate. | ||||||
| **On another note, I take back what I said the first time. I just meant to disapprove of arrogant comments like "You have a juvenile understanding of politics." | ||||||
| I would really hate to one this, but your material before has always been semiobscure, now you've gone for something so common... | ||||||
| ***I should just shut up, actually. 5'd | ||||||
| Slightly off topic, but what stops you Americans from creating a Political Party that is both Conservitive and Liberal in terms? | ||||||
| another roy4l original = insta 5'ed | ||||||
