| "Cease and Desist" from Neil Bauman |
| posted by max on 2006-01-10 19:28:35 |
I received this email from Neil Bauman (Eric Bauman's father and "Executive Vice President of Ebaum's World Inc.) earlier today, followed shortly after by a second email with only "Please feel free to post this if you have the gonads.". I strongly suggest you read more to see the most magical email thread I have ever been involved in. From: "Neil Bauman" <neil@ebaumsworld.com> To: <legal@ytmnd.com> Subject: Cease and Desist Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:01:53 -0500 To Whom It May Concern: Please be advised that several of your forum soldiers have decided to personally visit our corporate offices. The pictures they took while trespassing on our property were proudly posted on your site. In addition some of the postings on your forum literally threatened murdering Eric Bauman. You have now officially crossed the line. You can consider this formal notification that we have initiated a criminal complaint with several agencies including the FBI Cyber Terrorism Unit. I realize that most of your entire website is comprised of pathetic, pimply-faced maladjusted pre-teens whose parents don't love them, and their best Saturday night date takes AA batteries. Be that as it may, you have now become a criminal threat. There a lot of people now monitoring your site. I strongly suggest that there are no more unauthorized "visits" to our office. There will be severe penalties for failure to heed this warning. The forum banter on your site means nothing to us or anyone in the world for that matter, but your threats of bodily harm and property damage cannot be ignored. I was afraid that the FBI and police departments would not be responsive. I was pleasantly surprised to find the contrary. Interestingly, no individual or corporate entity has approached us with any question or problem regarding the content in question. This is true lunacy! There is this big dispute over a piece of content that we received a signed release for. Do you have any idea how foolish and immature you look through this? Of course I am referring to the real three dimensional world where real people live and work. You and your forum obviously live in very dark places where they don't teach spelling, grammar, logic, reasoning…etc. Well, that being said, we don't care how you advertise your stupidity, but eBaum's World Inc lives in the real world, and we are very tolerant and sensitive to the underprivileged and the mentally challenged. We will however use any and all legal remedies to ensure our safety. The police and FBI are taking this very seriously. I will leave you with this challenge, if any member of your forum or anyone any where wants to challenge our policy, simply come out from under your rock and call me on the phone, or schedule an appointment. I would be happy to discuss any problem with any credible individual. Of course I am assuming that these "kids" are capable of meaningful dialogue. We have received hundreds of calls, but alas, zero meaningful dialogue, only weak pranks. Judging from the posts I have read from your site I am confident that no one possesses the aforementioned skills necessary to pull that off. The first guy you sent in here probably soiled his pants when he couldn't answer the simplest question and literally ran out the door…LOL. I don't think he is a candidate for Mission Impossible. The police have already contacted him and our lawyers will have fun with Ben and his parents. The invitation stands. BTW, the FBI told me that the operators and facilitators of your site are more liable than they think; they also assured me that nobody from your site would come out from under their rock to talk. They likened your forum to terrorists who always stay under ground. Is that the way you envisioned your forum at its inception? How pathetic. I look forward to your reply. Neil J. Bauman Executive Vice President eBaum's World Inc. neil@ebaumsworld.com Office:585-292-0069 Fax: 585-292-0722 ===== Upon receiving this I could hardly believe it was real, as it would be somewhat surprising to see an "Executive" of a company act in such a way. I immediately called the office of eBaum's World Inc. and left a voice mail for Neil. This is the letter I received some time later. From: "Neil Bauman" <neil@ebaumsworld.com> To: <support@ytmnd.com> Cc: "'Eric Bauman'" <ebaum@ebaumsworld.com>, "'Jason Martorana'" <jason@ebaumsworld.com>, <wlevinson@culleymarks.com> Subject: Phone Message Dear Max, My assistant informed me that you called our corporate office to verify the correspondence titled Cease and Desist was in fact sent by me.it was. I would like to have any kind of meaningful communication with you or anyone representing your site. As stated in my earlier note, we have never been formally contacted by anyone regarding the questioned content. I am easily accessible during normal business hours. Feel free to contact me if you are capable of exhibiting a nominal use of some professionalism. I have had a great deal of contact from several of your loyal followers. That contact was far from meaningful or professional. In a short time you will be held accountable for the deeds and threats that were aimed at our site and our people. Obviously you have lost possession of your Yiddish cup. We are not about to be physically threatened by you or anyone else. If you thought this was a joke, you are very misguided. I am not one to be trifled with. How dare you and your brethren make death threats against our personnel? There is no veiled threat here, just your wake up call. You had the ability to stop this early in the game and choose not to. That strategy will prove to be a serious mistake in judgment on your part. Soon you will be contacted by Federal Investigators. Have a great day. Neil J. Bauman Executive Vice President eBaum's World Inc. neil@ebaumsworld.com Office: 585-292-0069 Fax: 585-292-0722 He even CC'd his lawyer. You would think a lawyer would tell his clients that isn't in their best interest to write such emails. ===== And my response: Dearest Neil, I appreciate every email I get, but yours holds a special place in my heart! If you had been paying attention, for the last three days I have been deleting hundreds of users, sites and posts with pieces of your personal information. I'm done. I don't think you understand the extent of this situation. People have been attacking me and my ISP just for making public statements NOT to attack you. You obviously overestimate my involvement, but I guess you have to be paranoid when you are so widely hated. These users who are attacking you are doing so on their own accord. You may think that because you steal your content via "submissions" you hold no liability to the content you host. The fact is, I run my website as a hobby. I have a full time job so I can pay my rent, I can't pay moderators. I generally try not to be involved in sleazy practices, both in business and in my personal life. It amazes me with the history of your site and the massive amount of internet users that can barely spit your name out in disgust without following it with an expletive that you still don't get it. I am not a part of this. I run a website where (some) people spend a lot of time and effort CREATING things to entertain others. You run a site where you TAKE and REBRAND things to host them without citing credit. How long do you think you can hide behind your "submission" technique? I think we both know there is no possible way the majority of the content owners from which you steal can beat you on the civil level. This is due to the fact that you are a sleazy businessman that practices underhanded techniques and has a team of lawyers, while the people who are creating the "crazy" content you so masterfully profit off of have NOTHING. These people don't have lawyers, they probably earn very little if nothing off their works. Do you think if this Lohan issue went to court either side would win? No, we both know it would go nowhere, and this is why you still have it up. These kids don't want your money, they want the general respect any person should give. When someone spends the time to create something, regardless of their content sources, they just want to be cited. Fuck, is it really that much of a big deal? Ebaumsworld Inc has a notorious reputation for being non-responsive and trying to make everything an uphill battle every step of the way. Last night I spent an hour on the phone with your hosting company, explaining the steps I was taking to try and prevent further damage from happening and explaining that I was willing to help out however I could. This morning I received a phone call from your office about a content issue on forums.ytmnd.com and how someone had posted your addresses. I explained that I had already deleted the posting earlier that morning. As a webmaster I can understand the major privacy invasion this entails and as I told your host, I want nothing to do with it. Let this be an example of how angry the community (and not just on my website) is at your practices. I didn't put these kids up to these charades, they choose to do it on their own free will. I made public statements warning people of the legality of these issues and how it just isn't worth it to harass people in this way, and they still visited you. Do you really think so many users of my website would be so angry if someone from this community HADN'T spent the time to make that image? Do you seriously think these people are delusional enough to actually make this big of a deal over nothing? I'm not sure of your legal background, but in my experience sending a letter degrading and demeaning the very community you steal and profit from isn't a valid way to send a legal notice, nor is using "LOL" in a sentence. This is not the way the "executive vice president" of a company acts. You sent a cease and desist but never explain what it is you want me to cease or desist doing? I will help the FBI and local authorities out any way I can and I will provide them with any possible information they could need. I'm even willing to take a lie detector test, how about you? I have no quarrel with eBaumsworld. That being said, here is my challenge to you: How about you stop hiding behind the money and privilege of a legal team paid for by PartyPoker popups and admit you and your employees are engaging in profiting from theft and purposefully going out of your way to make sure content creators don't get credited for their work? Who is the person that claims they made the work in question. If they signed a consent and release form why not make the information public? I tried to be amiable. I tried to offer you my help in ending the entire thing and you did nothing but insult me, when I think it's obvious I have had nothing to do with this. I'm done with you. I will continue deleting things that break my terms of service, but beyond that, expect nothing. Here is my final offer: tomorrow at midnight I will delete anything with the term "eBaum". I offer to do this for you if you remove lohanfacial.html from your website. Lovingly, -Max Sole proprietor, YTMND.COM |
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| loool |
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| EPCI REPLY | ||||||
| EPIC TYPO! |
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| FOURTH!
also, OWN3D! |
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| oh dear god | ||||||
| looks like the joker has dealt you the biggest boner of them all | ||||||
| Owned. | ||||||
| You need to start banning these people | ||||||
| n00bs too much into the moment. | ||||||
| pwend | ||||||
| edit:
but that is a good email.
i'll never double post again :( | ||||||
| go max!
seriously, ebums needs to get some of the 'real world' skills they are preaching about. | ||||||
| oh snap, max owned ebaumns | ||||||
| GIVE IT UP TO MAX FOLKS. HE IS THE MAN NOW DOG. |
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| Good job, I am amazed that he was so immature in his letter. He demeaned the entire YTMND community, GO GET 'EM MAX! | ||||||
| LOL PWNAGE a deal is mad | ||||||
| As much as I am on YTMND's side, the people here f*cked up by going that far. Max, I'm on your side. | ||||||
| All hail Max Goldberg, king of the internets! | ||||||
| AHAHAHAHAHA WINNER U PWNED THAT GUY | ||||||
| Yes, Max is the man now dog ;) | ||||||
| GG Max. | ||||||
| huzzah! | ||||||
| The "lovingly" part just seals the letter SO well. All hail Max, the only man with balls larger than Chuck Norris. | ||||||
| Yeah, but will they actually take it down? (I very much doubt it.) | ||||||
| XFD XFD XFD | ||||||
| Max, you truly are the man now dog. | ||||||
| Nicely said, Max. The fool acts like YOU told everyone to made all that anti - ebaum content so he could go and scream OMGFBILOL!111 | ||||||
| Max, don't wait. Swing the axe now. IT'll show your'e acting in good faith.
I'll continue to hunt down Ebaum related YTMNDs and report them. You should have a delete list by midnight.
As for these "YTMND soldiers". I hope bubba ass-rapes you. The true YTMND community shuns you.
Let's get back to YTMND, as it was. |
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| Max wins teh internets...but seriously, Max, you've done the right thing, and even though I joined after this incident, I...don't know how to finish what I'm thinking...but, um, he seems like a jerk! | ||||||
| MAX WINS. FATALITY. | ||||||
| you had me laughing my *ss off at "Dearest Neil". hahaha. 5'd. | ||||||
| The bullsh*t does need to stop. But if you erase ebaum, erase all but the The Definitive Ebaum world YTMND. That one was funny. | ||||||
| Max, you are my hero. I | ||||||
| Ebaum, E-Bomb, Excrement Bomb? | ||||||
| This is why i dislike ebaums, but I will cease and disist any hollgagging on the ebaums site! | ||||||
| haha nice.... | ||||||
| Max is the man now dog. thanks for sticking up for us. | ||||||
| lol, hes vice president of the company he started | ||||||
| this really sucks. the users are the ones that go and do these things, and max gets the blame. | ||||||
| What is WITH his ad hominem attacks? Good heavens. That is ridiculous. But. You win, Max. Let's procreate. | ||||||
| Max, you are my hero. I | ||||||
| I had absolutely no idea how far this had gone. My hat goes off to you Max for trying to deal with this *sshole like a gentleman. | ||||||
| LOL WE'RE TERRISTS!!!!1 | ||||||
| "Dearest Neil," hahaha. | ||||||
| Ebaum likes shooting himself in the foot doesnt he. | ||||||
| LEGENDARY MAX OF THE SOMETHING... WELL SAID... I AGREE WITH EVERYTHINGU SAID MAX :P | ||||||
| It's funny. The way Neil behaves seems to just support the numerous reasons people hate him and his company. | ||||||
| LOL WE'RE TERRISTS!!!!1 | ||||||
| I salute you max, you are truly the man now dog. :) | ||||||
| Can you say... OWNED? | ||||||
| Max, YOUR THE MAN NOW DOG!!! | ||||||
| wow. WOW. Max...I love you. | ||||||
| so now what? | ||||||
| Max is a god. *part of Internet history* | ||||||
| Max, allow me to allplaud your professionalism in this matter. With your skillful response and your logical challenge based upon facts, you have effectively stood up not only for yourself, but for all of us. I just want you to know how much I personally appreciate it, and that you made YTMND out to be the professional party in this situation. | ||||||
| ebaumsworldsucks.com is right; ebaumsworld isn't humor for the masses, it's humor for DUMBASSES, and the friggin' executive vice president shows it even in his correspondence! he talks about the 'real three dimensional world' but crikey, doesn't he understand how in that very same world he has just made a huge fool out of himself? geez, talk about unprofessional... | ||||||
| :) | ||||||
| "
those emails will become a symbol" And probably several YTMND's lol. | ||||||
| I'm going to try to be as professional as I can with this comment:
To be honest, when I first started reading the letter to Max I got scared, but as I continued to read the letter I noticed how truly immature and hypocritical the staff members of EB inc truly are. He calls us all kinds of names cuz we are members of a site, yet he takes the low road and calls us "most of your entire website is comprised of pathetic, pimply-faced maladjusted pre-teens whose parents don't love them, and their best Saturday night date takes AA batteries" Way to act like a VP of a company using that language. Hell, can't we all sue him for defamation of character? F**k Neil and his policies. I hope the entire company as a whole fails and implodes.
ytmnd 1 ebums 0 | ||||||
| And this is the true victory. Max, your response was classy and eloquent. You win the internet. For real. | ||||||
| Now if only we could present the heads of the hooligans responsible for this mess. Now I'm glad I missed this. I'd have 20 times the headache I have now.
Let the BANINATION begin. | ||||||
| Look up "ownage" in the dictionary and you'll find that e-mail.
(Real classy of eBaum to make a Jew joke, too.) | ||||||
| Well I figured all the claims of victory in this "war" were unfounded until now. Clearly Eric has had his cage seriously rattled to the point he is out for some measure of retribution although his attempts just fizzled down to blowing hot air. Eric needs to realize he is universally hated on the net by everyone except newcomers who don't know any better, and this sort of thing was a long time coming. | ||||||
| Did you guys really read through Neil's 2 emails ? I'm SPEECHless at this guy's chutzpah. Well done Max - you stood up to him, weren't cowed by his "GONNA SIC THE FEDS ON YOU" threats, and responded in a REAL professional manner. Proud of ya, man. | ||||||
| What a pompous ass. He talks about professionalism and bad grammar, and he's laced his entire email with disrespectful, unprofessional language with horrible grammar.
You are so right that this has nothing to do with money. If they just showed an ounce of respect towards all content creators rather than stripping the content, decompiling it, re-branding it with their own watermark - then none of this would have happened. It's bad for internet culture and bad for communities. R-E-S-P-E-C-T. | ||||||
| Prediction: eBaum will continue to be a fad on YTMND (They wil never admit they are wrong) So they keep Lohan but, we make fun of their site... Fair trade? | ||||||
| I just looked this up:
LIBEL - Published material meeting three conditions: The material is defamatory either on its face or indirectly; The defamatory statement is about someone who is identifiable to one or more persons; and, The material must be distributed to someone other than the offended party; i.e. published; distinguished from slander.
Criminal Law. A malicious defamation expressed either in printing or writing or by signs or pictures, tending to blacken the memory of one who is dead, with intent to provoke the living; or the reputation of one who is alive and to expose him to public hatred, contempt or ridicule. It has been defined perhaps with more precision to be a censorious or ridiculous writing, picture or sign, made with a malicious or mischievous intent.
I'm no lawyer, but that sounds about right. | ||||||
| Wow, nice work Max! Like they say, "Never mess with a Jew." Well I dont know if you are...sorry if that offeneds you, but I must say that was a bang up job right there. | ||||||
| they found the loop hole of the internet that must stop at the level that ebaumsworld has grown, a profitable corperation. give credit to the originaters you pricks | ||||||
| I'm shocked. First, it seems unreal that a grown man would behave in such a way (I mean Mr. Bauman's letter). He should be ashamed of himself. Also, all these "YTMND soldiers," should be ashamed of their acts. You are all acting like immature pricks and you bring shame to us all. Lastly, I'd like to make it known that I now worship Max as my god. The way he has handled the entire situation is most admirable indeed. Props to max. | ||||||
| OH SNAP | ||||||
| And this email is going to become legendary, btw. | ||||||
| Wow. The internet is serious business. | ||||||
| Ebaum'D | ||||||
| oh and max, your reply was elegant, you totally won :) | ||||||
| LOL Neil got P'zoned! | ||||||
| "Obviously you have lost possession of your Yiddish cup."
Wow what a complete dumbass. | ||||||
| If you haven't read it already and you want to know the other reasons why ebaums is evil, read this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebaums | ||||||
| God damn, Eric Bauman and his non professional ways were just pwnd like a bitch! f*ck eBaums.
Good Job Max! | ||||||
| I remember a few months ago when I was talking about LUE/LUElinks to some real life friends and they joked about us being terrorists. Good to see other people make the same comparison :) | ||||||
| forgive me for posting 3 times, I just wanted to say I loved this communication so much, I printed a hard copy to keep for years to come :) | ||||||
| win | ||||||
| He says, "I don't think he is a candidate for Mission Impossible." Looks like we have a new Mark Twain. | ||||||
| I agree with what you said in regard to the lingual behavior of Neil Bauman. I still have a hard time believing it was actually him.
I was not a part of the "war" if it can be so called, and can't wait for the entire debacle to be sorted out so that I may go on enjoying this site. Good luck Max. | ||||||
| nice there owned soon ebaums world will be found out by the fbi once and for all | ||||||
| Ebaum died in the war? This definately should be on the news. They don't get this sort of news often. | ||||||
| I'm pretty sure you could site Neil for being anti-semetic with the "yiddish" comment. Plus, if you could get Connery, or the writers of "Finding Forrester" to speak about this at all it would tip the balance. Hang in there Max. | ||||||
| isnt it kinda funny how the worst sh*t the forums have ever done had nothing to do with anyone from interflop or almightylol? | ||||||
| Now that is how people ought to act, Max. [/clap] | ||||||
| Max, if he wants to make this a legal matter, then let's go after him for content theft. We have the creator of the lohan gif here and he's also made a ytmnd saying that he did not submit it to ebaumsworld. There's your case right there. | ||||||
| Here's the best part - Neil is Eric Bauman's FATHER! http://www.democratandchronicle.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050205/BUSINESS/502050313&SearchID=73198753940248 | ||||||
| Can't someone just make a YTMND involving Max and Eric holding hands to "Why can't we be Friends?"? The ones that participated in the forum raid and/or the anti-Ebaums YTMNDs should be ashaimed at yourselves. It's because of your actions that YTMND may not exist in 2007. | ||||||
| Just to clarify I didn't mean to suggest you could be held liable for Libel, but that possibly Neil Bauman could. Nobody should behave that way, least of all an executive. Anyway, I'm repeating myself now so... Godspeed. | ||||||
| what a douche.
gg. | ||||||
| FTW | ||||||
| Maaaax. Go, Max, go! Haha. | ||||||
| I SMELL A SUPREME E-COURT CASE ON THE HORIZON | ||||||
| Wow. Max, you are my hero. The classiest guy ever. Thanks for trying to bring closure to this mess. | ||||||
| That was truly entertaining and awesome to read. What a moron. Good job, Max. | ||||||
| Oh, and isn't this BS too: "We are very tolerant and sensitive to the underprivileged and the mentally challenged."? D: | ||||||
| max, I love the way you handled the situation. He is probably going to try to make you fear him a little bit more. Remember, he has one hell of an ego on him and god forbid anyone mess with the all powerful Ebaum. You're handling it great and I for one praise you. | ||||||
| "Oh, and isn't this BS too: "We are very tolerant and sensitive to the underprivileged and the
mentally challenged."? D:" Don't they have the retard at burger king hosted (Stolen) on their site? | ||||||
| i love you max | ||||||
| Why do I have a feeling that another war will happen if Ebaum does not delete the Lohan pics on midnight? GG Max on keepng the peace on YTMND! :D | ||||||
| Max tried to retain neutrality on the issue but in the end, he made it clear where he stood on the subject and stuck it to Ebaum. Good job. YTMND venerates you. | ||||||
| lol he made a jew joke, what a cocksucker. srsly, he needs a hot poker jammed straight up his racist ass. Max you're in the green man, you did all you could humanly do to stop ebaum's name from coming up on YTMND, and that's all you're required to do. f*ck neil bauman he can choke on a fat black dick. | ||||||
| Good job Max, let a little dose of reality hit him, then lets see how tough he acts! | ||||||
| you letter makes me proud to be a part of this community max. long live ytmnd | ||||||
| All I can say is Holy Krap... haha | ||||||
| I second that remark (silic0nsilence). You have gone beyond your legal, ethical, etc. obligations in this situation, and despite his incredible attempt to seem superior, you've remained the consumate one. | ||||||
| he stole your jew cup | ||||||
| lol ebaums your the biggest hypocrite ever. "we are very tolerant and sensitive to the underprivileged and the mentally challenged." how much of you stolen content makes fun of people with mental issues? Max this guy is nothing but an assclown don't lose sleep over it. | ||||||
| And Max makes his stand. Again. | ||||||
| OMG I LOVE YOU! | ||||||
| This makes me proud of YTMND and the people who make it. I think I speak for everyone when I say that we're all behind you, Max. | ||||||
| "Don't they have the retard at burger king hosted (Stolen) on
their site?" Probably, but it seems like that's the majority of what Ebaums world is composed of, making fun of the "underprivledged and mentally challenged" :P | ||||||
| You're the man now dog. | ||||||
| This is the opinion I can stick by. Very well said and a good read. I honestly have to pity you for what's been going on in these days, Max, and I have to apologize. I...didn't participate in anything, but I made a YTMND about it. So...that sorta counts. Even though it was downvoted to oblivion. | ||||||
| *Claps* Go Max! | ||||||
| wow that was very well written max good job | ||||||
| Sorry for the re-post but the more I read the letter Neil wrote the more pissed I get. Who is he to call us 'terrorists', based on the sole fact that we are part of a website and forum? Who is he to call us all kinds of names and then retract all he said by stating "but eBaum's World Inc lives in the real world, and we are very tolerant and sensitive to the underprivileged and the mentally challenged". Tolerant my @$$, if they cared about the underprivileged he wouldn't talk to us like that. Could I use legal matters since he called me a 'terrorist'? I have family in Iraq and calling me a terrorist honestly does deface my family and my name. I hope this totally backfires on eb.com and I find it disrespectful to personally name someone who is being pursued by legal matters. Max wins. | ||||||
| "Right now we are calling their bluff," said Neil Bauman, vice president of the site and father of its creator Eric "eBaum" Bauman. "This is a 23-year-old kid operating a Web site out of his father's house. We want to see if big bad Viacom can shut him down."
Seems like Neil is the bully, but wait there's more...
Ebaum's World Inc.
Revenue $6000 + a day
O rly? Small business? | ||||||
| btw, quotes from CorutTV.com and wikipedia.org
AND NOT FROM EBAUMSWORLD.COM | ||||||
| BWAAAAA NFW?! kikass | ||||||
| dang! he thinks most YTMND users are people who live under rocks! i dont know about any one else but i got a date tonight! | ||||||
| This won't even go to court. Prosecutors won't touch this one cause Ebaum's hands are just as dirty by what he did with the hidden code to SA. So unless he wants to get smacked too, he should knock it off. And I doubt that the FBI will really pursue this. It would be a complete waste of their resources. They probably won't even put a whole agent on this case, just one who does this half the time and the other half he is the janitor. | ||||||
| Is YTMND on any news channels on TV? lol. CourtTV.com, eh? :P | ||||||
| Max, that was so beautifully handled. I can understand you wanting to work with them to end this petty waste of everyone's bandwidth. It does, as you said in your first notice about this "war", set a bad precedent. No one wants an unstable internet where major sites are crashed left and right because everyone pings all over en masse. I can see though this one put you over the edge and I applaud you for standing up to this bully. I could have and would have said the same things, but I would be dismissed as an immature cronie. The problem with people of Mr. Bauman's mentality is that he has his opinion of you set before he even speaks to you. There is nothing you can do about it: in his mind you are simply inferior and that's all there is to it. You dealt with him logically and without sinking to his level of insults. Good show, max. | ||||||
| A single tear rolled down my cheak. You are my hero Max. Such an understanding, sensible person. If anyone was running this website during this, I would want it to be you. | ||||||
| YES WE BOTH WIN WE STOP MESSING WITH THEM AND THEY STOP WITH THE STEALING OUR LOHAN! | ||||||
| Max, if you need any help with legal issues against you that might threaten the site, let us know. I'm more than willing to help. | ||||||
|
I believe that all of the following (including individuals that have been victumized by Eric Baumans practice)sites team together and file a law suit against Eric Bauman:
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http://www.somethingawful.com/, http://www.fark.com/, http://www.somaforum.com, http://www.newgrounds.com, and http://www.albinoblacksheep.com
http://www.ytmnd.com
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| *claps for Max* | ||||||
| The more I read Mr. Bauman's emails the more I am beside myself that an adult can act this way. This is some of the most childish and unprofessional postering I have ever seen! | ||||||
| I'm with ya max, but can you believe that guy put the word "lol" in his serious email? he he he | ||||||
| Why do I get the feeling that Neil won't comply with a simple compromise like that? | ||||||
| Hmm.. past midnight and my stuff isn't deleted. Must mean Neil doesn't have the balls. | ||||||
| YTMND wins! Except for the fact that Eric Bauman is still rich, you're all still less rich, and he'll still go on doing what he's always done with no legal reprocussions whatsoever. HIGH FIVES GUYZ! | ||||||
| wow.. i cant believe he attacked you like that. you handled it nicely though. I'd give it 5 if i could. | ||||||
| This eBaum crap has become absurd. I now feel ashamed by my little following of the crowd. It seems people on both ends of this stupidity are wrong. I'll help you out, Max, I deleted my eBaum YTMND. | ||||||
| Oh, wait, my bad. I misread. XP *cheers more for Max* :D | ||||||
| Behold, Max is teh master pwnter! | ||||||
| That's ownage, Max, plain and simple. I can't wait for the next volley of LOL's and WTF's from their camp. Ebaums is the new Jack Thompson. | ||||||
| WILL ALL YOU c*ntS SHUT THE f*ck UP! | ||||||
| Max = serious business | ||||||
| Your the f*cking man now dog. Your the fucing man. | ||||||
| "I realize that most of your entire website is comprised of pathetic, pimply-faced maladjusted pre-teens whose parents don't love them, and their best Saturday night date takes AA batteries."
Why'd he have to single me out? | ||||||
| Well-said, Max. Personally, I wouldn't have stooped to his level by using ad hominems, but you've said all that was needed. Hopefully Mr. Bauman might develop a degree of self-control and maturity that a man his age should rightly possess. | ||||||
| How about everyone, even those who are still attacking their site at this moment, just stop. If you don't YTMND will be gone, and that is serious business. I can only imagine the sh*t max puts up with | ||||||
| how does a person like that run a valuable website, Some people are so stuck up and idiotic that he makes a "pathetic, pimply-faced maladjusted pre-teens whose parents don't love them, and their best Saturday night date takes AA batteries" seem not all that bad. I hope you don't turn out that way, max, because You are the man. | ||||||
| OMG CAN SOMEONE REPORT THIS NEWS STORY TO CONAN O'BRIAN!!!!?!?!?!? BAAHAHAHAH
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| That was... amazing. I really thought it was exaggerated, the people behind E-Baums, but this makes how un-professional they are clear. I think if anything, they ought to be the ones being sued. | ||||||
| Max, you are the better man dog. | ||||||
| Very well said Max, even with the word f*ck in it, it still sounds like a prof's doc. And mabe you should add this to the end of your e-mails to eBaum... http://youloseanimated.ytmnd.com/ | ||||||
| you're the better man max dog! You did everything you could to stop this, they did not. | ||||||
| Allow me to add to the congratulations, Max. You handled it superbly well. | ||||||
| Eric Bauman, YOU FAIL AT LIFE!! | ||||||
| "eBaum's World Inc lives in the real world" | ||||||
| To be honest I don't doubt the threats were serious. Could this site possibly be shut down? Yeah, it could. I think that is something we should all take time to think about. | ||||||
| Max is the man now dog! | ||||||
| Although I strongly dislike EB, I think whoever is doing these things to them should have their computer destroyed. Just get over it and grow up. | ||||||
| Notice the Dialogue between the 2. And whats funny is, Eric's Dad is the vice president. I mean. Come on. Can't the owner of his own site talk to Max? Does he really need his dad? No. The fact is Eric is an inconsiderate prick that hides behind his parents and a legal army. Good Day Sir! I never did anything Illegal I will admit but I watched and enjoyed the carnage. Max, YOUR THE MAN NOW DOG. | ||||||
| you can't be a VP if you say "LOL". lol! | ||||||
| I think just due to the collossal A-Holes that the Baumans are (I've seen Eric's responses before; they basically say, "Suck my nutsack bitch, I got lawyers and a fat paycheck!"), I'd really like to see them fall. Anyone that can orchestrate this fall through legal means has my support... | ||||||
| that e-mail can't be real | ||||||
| Max totally owned Eric. Eric wasn't expecting an intellectual reply, LOL! | ||||||
| Max, since he asked you to post this on your site, send him another e-mail requesting that he post the un-edited e-mails on HIS site. So his users can see how much of a tard he is. | ||||||
| Max Goldberg, you will be remembered forever. | ||||||
| Oh yeah, and don't forget to show that jew joke to the FBI. | ||||||
| The whole thing was great until the threats, breaking in, and illegal crap came into play. Stupid bastards crossed the line. I agree with you. | ||||||
| Max, for a guy who runs an internet website you are so smoothe and well spoken. Eric's dad on the other hand came out of this making himself look like a punk. But what would you expect from a father who let his son drop out of highschool to run a joke site. Don't bother with this guy. If you delete all the ebaums sites he'd probably put Lindsey Lohan back up an hour later and send you an email entitled "NAH NAH NAH NAH NAH WE PWN U LOL!" | ||||||
| Why are people saying Max owned Eric Bauman? He didn't. Eric didn't have the balls to send those emails. Look closely at the address, folks. | ||||||
| Yay for max! | ||||||
| How unprofessional. And as if you had anything to do with it. Did you similarly CC your reply to your lawyer (cough) and his? | ||||||
| wow . . . just . . . wow. | ||||||
| max = my internet god | ||||||
| "Obviously you have lost possession of your Yiddish cup." That's probably lawsuit-worthy right there. | ||||||
| I have a bad feeling about this...
Oh, wait, that's just gas. Nevermind. | ||||||
| I find it hard to believe that the VP of Ebaums would write an email and conduct himself in an immature and unprofessional manner. If this truly is an email written by him, then he should think twice about attacking YTMND fans as if he were a "pimpily-faced geek."
Act your age, Mr. Bauman. Your childish stupidity will get you nowhere.
Keep your head up Max. I admire your professionalism during this rough time. | ||||||
| Thank you max. And although this has been said many times, and I would be a poseur for saying this, you truly are the man now dog. | ||||||
| Wow, this is pretty heavy stuff, cocks. | ||||||
| Good job Max :-). | ||||||
| I'm going to come when I see his reply. It will be that funny. | ||||||
| REPORTED TO FBI | ||||||
| I want to have Max's illegitimate children. | ||||||
| I can't believe that this "business professional" insulted you and called you names like a 3-year-old would. Shows why Ebaumsworld.com is such a horrible site; it's run by *ssholes. | ||||||
| I have a bad feeling in my stomache that Eric's dad only had the attention span to read half of your reply and still thinks he's wining. | ||||||
| Guess what? You have found a special spot on my radio show this Friday night. I'd post the info here, but I don't want to use something like this for advertising. Thanks for the great material. | ||||||
| max, u really are a great webhosting and a great person.
Plus u dropped the f bomb w00t! gotta love that =D
I appreciate everything ur doing max | ||||||
| Wonderfully handled, Max. If I were you, I would happily accept going to the authorities to help in any way you can. Just make sure you bring all the proof necessary to blast this idiot for breaking copyright laws. | ||||||
| luff max
It very obviously seems to me that you have the "moral high ground" here. Beyond the obvious hypocrisy of his emails and the ebaums website he represents, you are simply the admin of a user-submitted content website. And more than that, ytmnd is a community. It is not an "army" of terrorists. Mr. Neil Bauman obviously has not looked very far into the real motives and reasons for the raid.
max is the man now, dog | ||||||
| "I didn't put these kids up to these charades, they choose to do it on their own free will"
Actually, something awful told the legions of unopinionaged bandwagon morons to do it. Just clarifying | ||||||
| OH MY MR ERIC BAUMAN STILL LIVES WITH HIS DADDY! | ||||||
| You f*cked that bitch hardcore. Max, at the risk of sounding incredibly homosexual (not that there is anything explicitly wrong with that), you = my favorite man in the world. | ||||||
| I wish he wouldn't insult my AA girlfriend :( | ||||||
| Oh.My.God. That's way too much pwnage for one day. That would definitely hurt 20x more than any forum raid. GG eBaums, GG. | ||||||
| Wow how can an "Executive Vice President" represent his company by sending such a stupid *ss email. Now it makes neil look even worse then eric. I can understand being pissed off at trespassers but that has nothing to do with you at all. Just because we got pissed and made sites about ebaumsworld doesn't mean that you had anything to do with it. I mean you deleted the really bad ones. But ebaumsworld doesn't delete anything of theirs. So winner Max for trying to help the situation and loser ebaumsworld for trying to make things worse for everybody.
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| Pwned | ||||||
| I would rather have eBaum keep the lohanfacial image, remove the watermark and give proper credit where it is due. Well done, Max. | ||||||
| And max, i love you. | ||||||
| HAVE YOU NO SENSE OF DECENCY SIR | ||||||
| Max is the man now (dog!) He has my stapler and he can keep it,God damn
it!
Look at this bullsh*t:
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/response-01-10-06.html
"For the last 36-48 hours, ebaumsworld.com has been the victim of a global cyber-terrorism attack allegedly conducted by an alliance of webmasters and their followers who disagree with our company's editorial process" God, I used to like that site! But now I see them as who they really are....bitches...theifs....demons.... | ||||||
| f*ck that pussy Jesus, hail to the king baby! | ||||||
| Cease and Desist...LOL. | ||||||
| i think... im.. in... love.. with Max! I am ready to start living as a gay homosexual. | ||||||
| That is easily one of the most ludicrous things I've ever read...somebody had to do it: http://lolneil.ytmnd.com/ | ||||||
| Holy crapola, talk about a guy trying his hardest to seem smart. "Stop or I'll send the FBI after you." Do you really think the FBI cares about ebaums world or YTMND? | ||||||
| Welcome to America folks. Where Americans threaten Americans with lawsuits if they dont like whats being said about them. Whatever Happen to Amendment I in the Bill of Rights?
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the "freedom of speech", or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
Neil and Eric had it coming. Maybe they should think of other things to make a living off of bessides stealing the work of other peoples hard work. | ||||||
| Unbelievable. Even with my extremely limited years and experience I know I'd be ashamed to work for an 'executive vice president' who writes so unprofessionally. Give him hell Max, this guy's a disgrace. | ||||||
| **BOOM HEADSHOT** | ||||||
| "...tomorrow at midnight I will delete anything with the term "eBaum". I offer to do this for you if you remove lohanfacial.html from your website." Max gets sh*t done. You respect a man like Max. I'd lose my second highest rated site, but it would be worth it. | ||||||
| Pimply: Maybe...Maladjusted: Of course...but PRETEEN????? Bitch please!...SUCK OUR COLLECTIVE BALLS...ytmnsfw ASSHAT! Neil Bauman, you LOSE! Good DAY SIR! | ||||||
| And now that Max has gone through the same experience the forum users did, I'd like to dedicate http://brbfbi.ytmnd.com to him. | ||||||
| To see an EXECUTIVE of a company use internet "lingo" in some halfhearted threat against you or YTMND truly baffles me. I laughed (to the misfortune of my roommate) quite heartily upon seeing "LOL" and "BTW" used in a PROFESSIONAL LETTER. Sadly, this comment is likely more akin to what normal folk in the "three-dimensional world" kindly refer to as English.
Hats off to Max for not only remaining professional through such times, but for also defending this (mostly innocent) populace when all that was required was a brief statement crediting the creator of the Lohan site. | ||||||
| Wow, Max you morale demeanor and eloquent form cuts through this sh*t storm like a beacon of dignity and morality powered by a resounding sense of responsibility. I don't know what else to say except, your are the man now dog. | ||||||
| does anyone know the number for leonard j. crabbs? | ||||||
| I love how he said "…LOL."
How unprofessional, and he called YOU unprofessional! Wow awesome | ||||||
| - MAX - I sent them 2 emails requesting they remove the image, they have responded to NEITHER. I will be sending a letter via certified mail tomorrow. Is it possible for you to e-mail me? | ||||||
| And by "the forum users" I mean the REAL forum users who dealt with this BRB FBI stuff LAST YEAR. Not the current crop of f*ggots. | ||||||
| hahaha max you the man now dog! | ||||||
| I love this site. Although people do beat old primitive jokes into the ground here it is a place where people can log on FOR FREE and make things to amuse themselves and others. It's sad that a piece of sh*t site like ebaums (which hosts videos and other things you can see on other sh*tty sites like theirs) would rip off a user from ytmnd. That being said, just keep up the good work man. P.S. I'm sure the Ebaum guy hasn't seen a decent piece of pussy since the late 90's | ||||||
| Max, you've done well. I hope all turns out well for you because you had no involvement in this internet war. Seeing these messages from Neil has made me lose any respect i might of had left for them and their website. | ||||||
| WHO IS THE MAN NOW DOG? MAX IS! MAX IS THE MAN | ||||||
| looks like bauman just ate his own words... http://ebdeath.ytmnd.com/ | ||||||
| Ahahahahaha | ||||||
| Well played, max.
I'm overly surprised at the...rather unprofessional construct of Neil's e-mail. In attacking immature acts, he issued one himself. 100% Irony.
Well, this is what happens when a hornet's nest is disturbed, so to speak. And it isn't the hornets' fault you get stung. | ||||||
| Wow thats some serious unprofessionalism. | ||||||
| I can't belive that a vice presedent would send you an email without looking into the facts first, you told everyone NOT to do this and they have done it anyway. You told them they would discredit you and they didn't take notice. I disagree with what ebaums does but there is nothing I can do about it. I am a child. These people that are terrorising ebaums should stop, they are accomplishing nothing. | ||||||
| Eric and Neil reminds me of http://mooreisfatduhimstoopidilikeanncoulterandchickenfries.ytmnd.com/
But instead of them demending their burrito... they demand hatred against the citizens in the online community. | ||||||
| We have top men looking into it. TOP MEN. | ||||||
| I dont remember when being the executive president of ebaumsworld.com was "the real world".
lol | ||||||
| 5'd! | ||||||
| "Well, that being said, we don't care how you advertise your stupidity, but eBaum's World Inc lives in the real world, and we are very tolerant and sensitive to the underprivileged and the mentally challenged." Have you seen "your own" content, idiot? Here's a recent one of your "funny" pictures (lol handicapped!!!!.) http://ebaumsworld.com/closesisters.html | ||||||
| AND BY THE WAY MY NINTENDO DS DOES NOT TAKE AA BATTERIES LOL STUPID! | ||||||
| I'm speechless... | ||||||
| holy crap, ebaum disabled my forum account? and i never even made a single post... | ||||||
| "and we are very tolerant and sensitive to the underprivileged and the mentally challenged." that's why ebaum's hosts a video making fun of some sickly skinny girl. and if he's trying to diss ytmnd, then why does he need us underprivileged retards to make the money for them? :P
(btw, when he said "LOL"-- pure gold i tell you) | ||||||
| from the D&R article: "He never came out of his room, he never graduated from college, he didn't date girls, and his mother and I were quite worried about him," Bauman says. "... But this kid is a nerd beyond belief, he took to it (computers) like a proverbial duck to water." lollers | ||||||
| Why can't we be friends? :)
http://maxneric2getha4eva.ytmnd.com/
We can ALL be the man now, dog.
Peace, harmony, love, friendship and MAXWINSLOL for all! | ||||||
| He gave his lawyer an ebaumsworld.com email account. I think it's all well and good for both Br. Baumans to recieve email there as they are the webmasters, but at what point does a lawyer lose credibility? I'd say when he recieves email at a domain where there are videos of farting preachers and ads for online poker games. That's just where I stand on the whole "professionalism" aspect. | ||||||
| Very well said... VERY well said. I disagree with what everyone at YTMND is doing, but I disagree with ebaum as a whole. I think this is quite a fair offer to make. | ||||||
| "The forum banter on your site means nothing to us or anyone in the world for that matter, but your threats of bodily harm and property damage cannot be ignored." -- Neil Bauman... ebdeath.ytmnd.com | ||||||
| OH SHI OH SHI OH SHI | ||||||
| sock it to 'em | ||||||
| Ohshiz, I hope this doesn't continue escalating...
But of your emails, well played. YTMND itself wasdefinitely not involved. Any loser can attack a forum with "YTMND" in their name. An intelligent moderator and/or owner would know that it's most probably just some idiot, and not you.
Having said that, using "lol" in a formal email is not to intelligent at all. | ||||||
| Holy Hypocrisy Batman, WTF?
"The first guy you sent in here probably soiled his pants when he couldn't answer the simplest question and literally ran out the door…LOL. I don't think he is a candidate for Mission Impossible. The police have already contacted him and our lawyers will have fun with Ben and his parents. The invitation stands. "
What is he trying to say here? For crying out loud, how do you get to be the Executive Vice President of anything without finishing grammar school? | ||||||
| People should start sponsoring the
MAX IS THE MAN NOW DOG
site | ||||||
| Thank you Max. | ||||||
| This is just like the Squidi.net and PennyArcade legal battles. | ||||||
